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Topic: Lord of the rings Current Date/Time:
April 11, 2000 03:20:13
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Kung Sune
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From: Härnösand
Registered: Aug 1999
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posted August 06, 1999 22:05
   
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Is there anyone who knows where I can find the latest version of Harlan Thompson's lord of the rings scenario? |
Ken Hinds
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Registered: Mar 99
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posted August 07, 1999 00:22
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I just downloaded my copy last weekend from Mr Tembas Site. One big hint for you when you start to play. For those units that his readme says you can't build again if you change production - Don't use those cities to view your possible unit production choices It auto-reverts to settlers if you do.Lot's of luck and have fun. Ken |
Makeo
King
From: Victoria, Australia
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted August 07, 1999 07:47
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I'm not sure you would want the updated version. It wasn't done by Harlan and I actually think the original is better than the updated. |
Ken Hinds
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posted August 07, 1999 11:24
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Makeo, thanks for the warning. The version that I downloaded was Harlan's.Ken |
mrtemba
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From: Bloomington, IN, USA
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted August 07, 1999 18:15
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I agree with Makeo, thats why the original is on my best on net and the edited version is in the hosted section  You CAN switch back to the unbuildable units! Click on AUTO and then CANCEL. Presto chango back to making those kick ass ents and eagles. |
Kung Sune
Settler
From: Härnösand
Registered: Aug 1999
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posted August 07, 1999 19:30
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There's actually a fourth version of the scenario made by Harlan Thompson, where he made the scenario is a lot harder. I downloaded it oncw but since I formatted my harddrive I can't find it again. |
af Ulm
Chieftain
From: Gothenburg, Sweden
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted August 07, 1999 22:33
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Yes, I think so. |
Fistleaf
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From: Singapore
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted August 08, 1999 03:19
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Anybody has any good strategies for winning this scenario? I tried so many times but never succeeded. Minas Tirith is hard to hold on to and Frodo keeps getting killed. |
iadkins
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From: Killcare Heights, NSW, Australia
Registered: May 99
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posted August 08, 1999 05:28
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Yes - this is a grwat scenario. I sufferred a marginal defeat playing first time with no reloads. I lost most of Gondor but got Frodo to Mt Doom and wiped out most of the enemy but the clock just beat me before I could easily re-capture all of my lost cities.... Best game I've played It was on the Apolyton dl database along with my Gwani modpack but something really odd has happened there?? Does anyone know? A lot of files have just disappeared - Lord of Rings was no. 4 in the modpack Top 20 with over 300 downloads (my Gwani at 16) but it's all changed??
I've e-mailed Kwang....------------------
*THE DEITY*
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Ken Hinds
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posted August 08, 1999 06:19
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Mr Temba,Does the Auto/Cancel routine work for the Hobbits also? That was where I got messed up and went back to start over. Thanks, Ken |
mrtemba
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From: Bloomington, IN, USA
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted August 08, 1999 11:02
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it should...the same principle applies. Just click on "AUTO" and then it should say "MILITARY ADVISOR" "DOMESTIC ADVISOR" or "CANCEL" and then hit cancel. Easy. |
af Ulm
Chieftain
From: Gothenburg, Sweden
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted August 08, 1999 20:09
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The best strategy in this scenario is, I belive: Use the pikemen as cannon-fodder to hold of the forces from Mordor, disband most of them and build rangers and use them for defence, pillage all the fortesses on your side of the river, and move your pikeman to the front. When the enemy breaks through your defences, make sure you have pillaged the fortresses, and when you feel you can't hold the city north of minas tirith, let mordor take it, and bribe it, and you will probalby get two or three Nasgûls. Use Aragorn, the ents to take Isengard. Go through Sauruman teritory with Frodo and Sam, cross the river anduin and enter Mordor form north. In north use all your unique units in Rivendell an Eagle's eyrie to destroy all troops marching against you on open ground. When they start to run out of troops, you can begin yor offencive. Only rely on rangers to protect your cities in Gondor, pikemen are useless. If you follow this strategy you must win. |
Kung Sune
Settler
From: Härnösand
Registered: Aug 1999
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posted August 08, 1999 20:19
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Yes, but have anyone seen the fourth version, not the edited one? |
mrtemba
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From: Bloomington, IN, USA
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted August 09, 1999 00:16
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i'm not sure what version it is I've been playing....what is the difference between 4 and 3?yes, bribing is a good way to win! go for the witch queen espescially, but any nazgul is a good buy! |
af Ulm
Chieftain
From: Gothenburg, Sweden
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted August 09, 1999 22:51
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Ha, I beat my own record on this scenario today. I conquered all of Midgard with three rounds left to play. |
mrtemba
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From: Bloomington, IN, USA
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted August 10, 1999 13:07
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you mean mordor of course..... |
af Ulm
Chieftain
From: Gothenburg, Sweden
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted August 10, 1999 19:33
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No of course I meant midgard (including allies)........... |
randomturn
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From: NYC US
Registered: Aug 1999
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posted August 11, 1999 14:00
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Maybe you mean middle earth. Midgard is the name of a Microprose scenario, and has no connection to Lord of the Rings. |
mrtemba
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From: Bloomington, IN, USA
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted August 11, 1999 14:22
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yeah, that was my point. |
Mercator
Warlord
From: Hoofddorp, NL
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted August 11, 1999 14:49
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Version 4 has some better graphics and is more difficult to win... As far as I can remember Harlan made it more difficult to bribe units. He also added some more unique units (e.g. Merry and Peregrin)
(so no more winning by bribing Mr. Temba)There aren't any sounds (or at least I don't have them) with v4, though.
I might add it to my website...
(see FANTASTIC WORLDS moves! thread) |
mrtemba
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From: Bloomington, IN, USA
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted August 11, 1999 15:37
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its always been hard to bribe. you just need a loooooot of cash |
af Ulm
Chieftain
From: Gothenburg, Sweden
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted August 11, 1999 16:42
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Yes, i mean't middle earth of course. Midgard is the name of the world in nordic mythology, where Tolkien took the name Middle Earth from, and name in the Swedish translation of the books.
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Kung Sune
Settler
From: Härnösand
Registered: Aug 1999
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posted August 11, 1999 16:45
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Where can I get the fourth version then?
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St Leo
King
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted August 12, 1999 12:08
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You can also cancel orders by choosing an improvement and then cancelling at the 50% Penalty thing.:-)P.S. Is there any way to make sure Rohan's Eomer and Eowyn are killed really early? ------------------
St. Leo
www.sidgames.com/imperialism/
www.sidgames.com/sidportal/
www.sidgames.com/forums/
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af Ulm
Chieftain
From: Gothenburg, Sweden
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted August 12, 1999 19:50
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You can always kill them yourself, It wouldn't be ethically right though, ha ha.
[This message has been edited by af Ulm (edited August 12, 1999).] |
MacUser
ACS Civ2 Mac Webmaster
From: Olathe, KS, USA
Registered: Jul 1999
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posted August 16, 1999 23:09
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Although I almost hate to ask, but has anyone gone to the trouble of converting the Lord of the Rings senario into a Mac compatible formate?------------------
Different is GOOD! AOL IM--JacSamDad |
af Ulm
Chieftain
From: Gothenburg, Sweden
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted August 17, 1999 05:34
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Yes, I have seen it to Mac somwhere, but I have no idea where.
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MacUser
ACS Civ2 Mac Webmaster
From: Olathe, KS, USA
Registered: Jul 1999
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posted August 17, 1999 07:48
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Hmmm...looks like I'm off on a quest of my own!------------------
Different is GOOD! AOL IM--JacSamDad |
valmont
Warlord
From: Kansas City
Registered: Aug 1999
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posted August 18, 1999 14:04
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The Mac converted Lord of the Rings is available right over here!The site also contains instructions for converting PC mods to Mac which I intend to try out soon on the Gangster scenario.
http://www.fortunecity.com/underworld/sonic/471/MOD_archive.html |
MacUser
ACS Civ2 Mac Webmaster
From: Olathe, KS, USA
Registered: Jul 1999
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posted August 18, 1999 23:27
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YEAH! WOO-WHO! Valmont you are too cool! By the way I too live near KC, in Olathe! I am now off to find a playable Lord of the Rings!! WOO-WHO! DONUTS FOR EVERYONE!------------------
Different is GOOD! AOL IM--JacSamDad
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Kung Sune
Settler
From: Härnösand
Registered: Aug 1999
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posted August 19, 1999 02:33
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Is there really noone who knows where the fourth vesion of the scneario is? |
MacUser
ACS Civ2 Mac Webmaster
From: Olathe, KS, USA
Registered: Jul 1999
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posted September 22, 1999 00:02
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Well, the site that Valmont suggested did have a LOR Mac scenario and the ReadMe file/instructions said Version 3. However, Caspian and I have been trying to play it as a PBEM Hot Seat game and finally realized that his PC version 3 was different from my Mac Ver.3! My version has 57 Units in the Unit.PICT file while his Unit.GIF files has 70 units mapped in different squares! Needless to say this caused some confusion!Caspian feels that my Mac LOR must be version 2 rather than 3. Does anyone know of another Mac conversion? Should I get brave and try to convert the PC Vers 3? Did anyone every find out about the mysterious PC ver 4? Can Harlan Thompson be contacted? and who is John Galt? ------------------
Different is GOOD! AOL IM--JacSamDad |
af Ulm
Chieftain
From: Gothenburg, Sweden
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted September 25, 1999 15:43
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Can't anyone just be nice and tell me where it's hidden. |
MacUser
ACS Civ2 Mac Webmaster
From: Olathe, KS, USA
Registered: Jul 1999
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posted September 25, 1999 23:20
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Actually that's why I just logged on! Caspian is actually playing with ver 4 and I have 3. He doesn't remember where he got it, but he is sending me the files in several pieces. If you would like me to email them to you let me have a valid email address and they are as good as yours; Kung Sune the email address in your profile is no longer valid - I tried to send them to you today. af Ulm, I will try to send them to you now.------------------
Different is GOOD! AOL IM--JacSamDad |
Anunikoba
Chieftain
From: Michigan,USA
Registered: Sep 1999
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posted September 25, 1999 23:48
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"I am the Great and Powerful Sauron! Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!" |
Mercator
Warlord
From: Hoofddorp, NL
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted October 09, 1999 11:38
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If anyone is still interested in version 4... Version 4.1 of Harlan's Lord of the Rings is NOW available at http://civ2.sidgames.com
(no sounds (yet) I'm afraid). |
Sir David
Apolyton Whiner
From: Sverige
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted October 09, 1999 12:21
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Hey, two swedes in one thread!!! now its three... |
af Ulm
Chieftain
From: Gothenburg, Sweden
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted October 10, 1999 17:30
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Danke schön. |
mrtemba
King
From: Bloomington, IN, USA
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted October 10, 1999 23:37
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wow! EVERYONE DOWNLOAD THE NEW VERSION NOW! ITS AMAZING! but much harder....  |
af Ulm
Chieftain
From: Gothenburg, Sweden
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted October 12, 1999 17:12
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Yeah, it's almost impossible, I didn't even get a marginal victory. And by the way it's a bit buggy too. |
af Ulm
Chieftain
From: Gothenburg, Sweden
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted October 12, 1999 17:14
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Yeah, it's almost impossible, I didn't even get a marginal victory. And by the way it's a bit buggy too. |
St Leo
King
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted October 19, 1999 20:25
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Dang, and I couldn't win in the old version.:-)------------------
St. Leo
www.sidgames.com/imperialism/
www.sidgames.com/sidportal/
www.sidgames.com/forums/
Member of the AUP! |
Quiksilver
Settler
From: virginia beach, virginia, usa
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted October 20, 1999 17:23
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can someone tell me what the Lord of the Ring scenario is? ive heard of a book called that, i liked it, so im interested in this. and tell me what the website is where i can get it |
MacUser
ACS Civ2 Mac Webmaster
From: Olathe, KS, USA
Registered: Jul 1999
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posted October 21, 1999 07:15
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QuickSilver, download the file shown above for Ver 4.1 or go to the ACS Scenarios page for ver 3. Either way there is an extensive Read Me/instructions file that will explaine the game. You have read the trilogy (3 books) "Lord of the Rings" and the Hobbit by Tolkin, haven't you? If not, go get a copy of the Hobbit followed by the trilogy. You'll love them! Civ will still be here when you are done!------------------
Different is GOOD! AOL IM--JacSamDad |
Quiksilver
Settler
From: virginia beach, virginia, usa
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted October 21, 1999 13:47
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i read "The Hobbit" but when i started reading the first book of the trilogy it seemed to go too slow and i stopped when there was some big counsel or something like that.......what does ACS stand for? |
Huey
Prince
From: Arnhem, The Netherlands
Registered: May 99
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posted October 22, 1999 17:36
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You never finished "Lord of the Rings"? It's one of the best books I ever read...!ACS is the site you are right now,Apolyton Civilization Site |
MacUser
ACS Civ2 Mac Webmaster
From: Olathe, KS, USA
Registered: Jul 1999
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posted October 22, 1999 20:29
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Yeah, what he said! ------------------
Different is GOOD! AOL IM--JacSamDad |
Harlan
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From: Berkeley, CA, USA
Registered: b.02-15-99
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posted October 28, 1999 01:30
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Hi,
Ian pointed out to me that this discussion is going on- I don't check Civ2 discussions much anymore. Glad to see people are still interesting in playing this scenario.Version 4.1 is indeed the latest version. There are sounds for that version too. I've got em, and will send them to SidGames and Apolyton soon. Jorrit from SidGames recently sent me a message asking for the latest versions of all my scenarios. I'll have to dig around and send them off- I thought everything I did was out there, but seeing how noone can find the sounds for these, that must not be the case. What's this about a "non-Harlan" version of this scenario? I never heard about that, no one asked me any permission about fixing my stuff. One last thing. I've given up on doing Civ2 stuff myself, but this scenario could use a bit of tinkering. Specifically, I was always bummed that I didn't have enough room in the events.txt to do everything I wanted. I've heard though that some of these more recent CD-add ons have increased the max size of the events.txt file. If this is true, I'd give an open invitation to anyone who wants to add to that file to take advantage of that space, plus fix whatever bugs there may be. Let me know if you're interested. Harlan PS- By the way, version 4 is much harder. I wanted it to be a big challenge and get rid of loopholes like bribing.
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Peter Hennesy
Warlord
From: UK
Registered: May 99
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posted October 28, 1999 17:02
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got ta go with quiksilver here. Lover the hobbit - one of the best books I ever read - but vcould get into lord of the rings. got stuck on book 1 to. (tho admittedly this was 20 years a\go) My question - I downloaded this a while back but havnt played it. Only remember it now. Would it be good to play even not having read the book? Or is it really a tolkeiners only job? |
Peter Hennesy
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From: UK
Registered: May 99
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posted October 28, 1999 17:03
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got ta go with quiksilver here. Lover the hobbit - one of the best books I ever read - but vcould get into lord of the rings. got stuck on book 1 to. (tho admittedly this was 20 years a\go) My question - I downloaded this a while back but havnt played it. Only remember it now. Would it be good to play even not having read the book? Or is it really a tolkeiners only job? |
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