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Author Topic:   Custom civilizations - a dissertation            Current Date/Time: April 11, 2000 03:18:52
Theben
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EnochF,
Here's a few extra Indian names. Tack them in front of the existing ones.

Pataliputra(capital)
Rajagriha
Ayodhya
Kasi
Prayaga
Tamralipti
Ujjain
Mathura
Pattala
Taxila
Bodh Gaya
Nalanda
Bharukaccha
Kanauj
Kanchi
Madura
Vatapi

DARTH KRAFTER
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Great thread. I just printed out all the lists - thanks to everyone who contributed!
Theben
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This thread can use a *BUMP*. And the page with the tribe editor (in St. Leo's post on page one) is still up and running!
Theben
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bip bop bump
Jim W
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posted December 21, 1999 13:18   Click Here to See the Profile for Jim WClick Here to Email Jim W Edit/Delete Message Reply To & Quote Message IP: Logged, Admin Access Only


If anybody is interested, I am going through the tribes and replacing them a bit at a time.

First off, I made up names for the first two, but my imagination started to have a hard time after that, so I went to other esoteric sources. I've got several tribes, with names and leaders from the Handbook of American Indian Indian Languages (They have aa section on Sioux (properly Dakota) which I'm saving to replace the Sioux on the list.

From other sources, I've got old Anatolian Languages (Lycian, Lydian, and Hittite) and there are a few others. I'm about halfway through, working on it a bit at a time, but I should be all done in a few weeks.

If it wasn't more trouble than it's worth, I'd try to get some generic graphics for the diplomatic screens.

However, if anyone wants to look at my list, either as it is now, or as it will be when I get done, let me know.

(Right now I'm just doing tribe names, city names, and leader names. When I get done with that, I'll probably go through and dow something about the leader titles.)

JimW

Theben
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JimW,
If it's not too much trouble, please post your list here, or provide a link to a site that has your list. Thanks!
Jim W
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Registered: Sep 1999
posted December 22, 1999 14:42   Click Here to See the Profile for Jim WClick Here to Email Jim W Edit/Delete Message Reply To & Quote Message IP: Logged, Admin Access Only


List so far:

;
; CIVILIZATION CITY LIST
; Copyright (c) 1995 by MicroProse Software
;
; This file can be altered at your own risk to change
; the default names for cities. Keep in mind that
; altering the contents of this file may cause your game
; to malfunction.
;
; City names may contain no more than 15 characters.
;

@Balheri
Balher
Adenhi
Chrisfo
Darden
Gerzhac
Balhiri
Sisdena
Toldas
Casfai
Darhadhad
Swagdena
Galhuz
Thwisfo
Daldena
Kelhrran
Thwesendosh
Calhax
Tolhadhad
Neshno
Drendo
Keldos
Vaher
Manhuz
Gwershala
Phon Shaia
Kwelzad
Heylposh
Neshfadhad
Nanhrran
Tharshpul
Noheri
Neshalhax
Throsh
Thwishfaad
Nerenbash
Helchar
Nelno
Tolher
Fantwass
Vaposh
Glayad
Norihad
Camhad
Washax
@STOP

@IFFARAZIANS
Ittarsha
Faraq
Innagash
Qalash-Edos
Fenknol
Qalqal
Zada
Nassin
Paqol
Tarroz
Magnenda
Zolith
Vannir
Nolith
Nissarsha
Laq
Gash-Heyl
Inknos
Taga
Sharriyil
Qwal
Nishnash
Darffith
Illanash
Piwarr
Firrinass
Nannihat
@STOP

@DAGELMAENS
Daktsasin
Daldanik
Hagwal
Bilwaes
K'emnaes
Heyiwiyin
Gaik
Latgau
Soko'op
Yanada
Wakha
Nagaida
Sgeluda
Galahote
Gageael
Ikwaek
@STOP

@KUSANS
Kukwis
Kusemitch
Nehawewat
Issotitani
Nlotaya
Lowitiyeqem
Khpiyetch
Qaiqayona
Halqtso
Aqalqitso
Demsit
Qamit
Lhinap
Milakht
Winaqakhem
Nhawits
Kwaniya
Lpeiti
Tchineheni
Khne'et
Klayam
Yikhaheni
Yukhwahena
Qamelani
Tchwal
Nmilaqa
Kwakhal
Yikhakhwekh
Leghiyil
@STOP

@Quuitch
Palu
Qalinal
Qalni
Tslawe
Lkwaluk
Khumch
T'ilmis
Qamilis
Wits'uwe
Tawwekh
Inq'aa
Mitlaitin
Taikens
Skwahaikham
Ayaqati
Hyatsitsun
Yak'iskinu
Katlautin
Tuhachayun
Qnuhun
Aichnaw
Khniwna
Sikha
Haiqaq
Tlqaitu
@STOP

@ORAWELLAT
Yatil
Olhiwetin
Yayati
Tikenviyik
Tnotirgin
Atinum
Walqar
Ragchorm
Qaswugen
Araro
Upenke
Sunkilat
Ilirit
Vaiamu
Qapaau
Lukiol
Ve'emilin
Anqalin
Gaimitch
Penyolhi
Qolo'atti
Unelen
Riltellan
Eylan
Mikichin
Meinyichin
Notanqat
Vaenqatch
Vaiumvai
@STOP

@ATINNE
Lomittakhoi
Khaslintau
Medilite
Khonnewan
Tsedin
Miskut
Nanya
Nillin
Llenawilla
Talkait
Killnadil
Nanatuldin
Llohwunme
Mikkindin
Khottselkai
Yawinea
Mewillwall
@STOP

@KOLUSHANS
Yugoqsh
Ghaganqos
Khatsakh
Satchani
Yaoteyi
Kiksadi
Ghonana
Yutaqa
Yakukales
Kutnuqtin
Yuqakanakh
Aku
Qat
Taqat
Yuyaitlanq
Utsagayi
Yukhanas
Qaodisa
Atshawi
Tuwulitsin
Ghoqoawe
Yadekhtak
Gatsaq
Wuduziku
Guyagut
Daidedi
Kuduqchute
Tlitliku
Tletlsuqosti
Tsesku
Dukhonqe
Qaquwan
Uqokhtsh
Udutshuni
Agitahan
@STOP

@DRAVIDS
Avacam
Tanyiyur
Natruvur
Pattranga
Ucam
Mutur
Shahar
Pukkum
Uravar
Chitari
Purrampati
Akaram
Chelam
Chongita
Tiragkam
Pakai
Vizinam
@STOP


Leaders:
Gwantesh, Frathin, 0, 1, 1, Balheri, Balheri, 0, 1, 1, 1, Dictator, Dictator,
Naftharus, Kaellin, 0, 2, 0, Iffarazians, Iffarazian, -1, -1, 1,
Dasmayam, Kwedei, 0, 3, 3, Dagelmaens, Dagelmaen, 1, -1, 1, 4, Archbishop, Archbishop, 6, Chancellor, Chancellor
Legihiyulel, Yikulkwis, 1, 4, 0, Kusans, Kusan, 0, 0, 1, 1, Pharaoh, Pharaoh, 2, Great Pharaoh, Great Pharaoh
Kuwaninkh, Qakhunchich, 0, 5, 1, Quuitch, Quuitch, -1, 0, 1, 4, Reverend, Reverend, 5, Speaker, Speaker
Yetirkin, Wurrerkin, 1, 6, 1, Orawellat, Orawellat, 0, 1, -1, 6, Prime Minister, Prime Minister
Tlenasloi, Metsisiyen, 0, 7, 2, Atinne, Atinne, -1, -1, 0, 2, Maharaja, Maharaja,
Hinwati, Dutuwusigu, 1, 1, 3, Kolushans, Kolushan, 1, 0, -1, 2, Czar, Czarina, 4, Patriarch, Matriarch
Vengas, Vattavi, 0, 2, 0, Dravids, Dravidian, 1, 0, 0,


RULES:

Gwantesh, Frathin, 0, 1, 1, Balheri, Balher, 0, 1, 1, 1, Dictator, Dictator,
Naftharus, Kaellin, 0, 2, 0, Iffarazians, Iffarazian, -1, -1, 1,
Dasmayam, Kwedei, 0, 3, 3, Dagelmaens, Dagelmaen, 1, -1, 1, 4, Archbishop, Archbishop, 6, Chancellor, Chancellor
Legihiyulel, Yikulkwis, 1, 4, 0, Kusans, Kusan, 0, 0, 1, 1, Pharaoh, Pharaoh, 2, Great Pharaoh, Great Pharaoh
Kuwaninkh, Qakhunchich, 0, 5, 1, Quuitch, Quuitch, -1, 0, 1, 4, Reverend, Reverend, 5, Speaker, Speaker
Yetirkin, Wurrerkin, 1, 6, 1, Orawellat, Orawellat, 0, 1, -1, 6, Prime Minister, Prime Minister
Tlenasloi, Metsisiyen, 0, 7, 2, Atinne, Atinne, -1, -1, 0, 2, Maharaja, Maharaja,
Hinwati, Dutuwusigu, 1, 1, 3, Kolushans, Kolushan, 1, 0, -1, 2, Czar, Czarina, 4, Patriarch, Matriarch
Vengas, Vattavi, 0, 2, 0, Dravids, Dravidian, 1, 0, 0,


As I said, this is all I've got so far, but I keep doing a bit at a time.

Sorry, I don't have anything posted on a website, but until this thread I wasn't sure if anyone was interested besides me and a few other strange persons.

JimW

Tazidude
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Using the Encyclopedia maps and the accompanying text I came up with::

VIKINGS
South Bend, IN
Trondheim
Kaupang
Uppsala
Hladir
Aarhus
Viborg
Roskilde
The Udal
Lindholm
Jorvik
Westness
Jarrow
Skara
Ravning Enge
Birka
Jarlshof
Sigtuna
Odense
Lunde
Larne
Hedeby
Aldeigjuborg
Holmgard
Nonnebakken
Ribblehead
Thwaite
Askrigg
Trelleborg
Risby
Jelling
Vorbasse
Fyrkat
Kvivik
Faeroe
Orkney
Shetland
Iceland
Greenland
Vinland
L'Anse-au-Meadow
Newfoundland
Gardarike
Varangia

Theben
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Hmmm...just a guess, but I realy don't think the Vikings originated from Indiana.
Mao
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Of course they did! I met one there just the other day!
catullus
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Well.
Faeroe, Orkney, Shetland, Iceland and Greenland are islands, not cities.
Vinland, L'Anse-au-Meadow and Newfoundland are all names for the same region, not cities.
Varangia I never heard of???
Gardarike is more known as Russia. Not a city.

Better would be to dig up some of the old villages/cities of dazumal. Reykjavik, Tunsberg, Stiklestad, Svolder, Viken, Tjøtta, Hov (or Hof), Frösö, Frosta all spring to my mind.

C.

catullus
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ops, double post

[This message has been edited by catullus (edited December 29, 1999).]
Sten Sture
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I use Gamla Uppsala for the Viking capital. I would put South Bend after Minneapolis and Duluth, but before Elkhart or New Buffalo.
Tazidude
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Well, my way of thinking as this:

If most of the residents of a city acted as Seafaring, WarMongering, Soon to be extinct, wearing stinky clothes and not caring what the rest of the world thinks then must be descended from Vikings.

Answer to the area vs city question. I Dont know if New York would really be New York without all of the suburbs which officially are their own little cities right?

Not to mention just a little difficult to find Country of Vike on the map! LOL

Most of the names of cities and locals that I used were just so that I didnt have to use the default city names. All of them however were used somewhere in the encyclopedia descriptive for vikings. I just thought that perhaps if they were not viking cities originally then they would have been if they were within rowing distance! LOL

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